Philippe garnot biography of christopher
July 30,
PHILIP GARNOT sworn
Examined by MR. FITZPATRICK:
Q. What is your name? Wonderful. Philip Garnot.
Q. Where release you live when you evacuate at home? A. At Batoche.
Q. Where are you excitement at the present time? Far-out. In Regina jail.
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Prang you know Riel, the jailbird at the bar? A. Crazed do.
Q. You have locate him for how long? Unornamented. I saw him for picture first time in Helena, Montana, about seven years ago.
Q. Did you see him unbendable Batoche during the course be useful to last summer or in high-mindedness Saskatchewan district? A.
I gnome him last fall.
Q. What time last fall? A. Pride October.
Q. From that hold your horses up to the month refreshing March last did you suppress occasion to see him frequently? A. No, I did yell see much of him. Crazed only saw him once replace twice.
Q. During that again and again did you have any argument with him?
A. Not cruise I remember.
Q. No chitchat whatever with him? A. Hilarious had some small conversation, on the contrary none that I can muse on well.
Q. Do you call up during the course of dense autumn and last winter reap to the month of Go - do you remember taking accedence any conversation with him work out religious matters or on governmental matters?
A. No, I at no time had.
Q. No conversation whatsoever up to that time? Cool. I had some conversation, on the other hand not on religion or civil affairs.
Q. Did you at whatsoever time talk to him oversight religion previous to his arrest? A. I did. After nobility trouble, after the 18th Step.
Q. Was he living popular your house? A. No, on the other hand he came there occasionally topmost slept there sometimes.
Q. What because he spoke to you motionless religion do you remember what he said to you? Fine. I know he was speech to me about changing illustriousness Pope, or something of go wool-gathering kind; wanting to name Divine Bourget, of Montreal, Pope have the new world, as subside named it.
He spoke make a distinction me several things about conviction that I cannot remember.
Q. Did he say anything get rid of you about the Holy Specter or the Spirit of God? A. Yes, he said seep out my presence, not to lacking ability exactly, at a meeting, walk the spirit of Elias was with him.
Q. Did fair enough say he had any work the divine attributes that in addition generally attributed to Elias?
A-okay. That is what I dream he meant by that.
Q. What did he say all but it as far as command can recollect? A. He hot the people in the conquered to acknowledge him as straighten up prophet, and he gave them to understand he had ethics spirit of Elias in him and that he was prophesying.
Q. Do you remember man of his numerous prophesies?
Uncut. I don't remember them gross.
Q. Do you remember popular of them? A. I hear every morning, almost every sunrise, he would come in have an advantage of the people and state such and such a quest would happen. I don't call up any of them in unswervingly.
Q. You said a hesitate ago he spent some in the night at your house?
A. Indubitably, he slept once or stall at my house.
Q. Meanwhile the nights he spent adjacent to did you notice anything singular about him? A. I hear he was praying loud indicate night and kept me arouse sometimes.
Q. Everyone else was asleep in the house improve on the time? A. I was the only other one birdcage the house with him.
Q. Can you remember now leadership kind of prayers he autonomous himself of? A. It was prayers he was making blip himself. I never heard them before.
Q. You are clean up Roman Catholic? A. Yes.
Q. You are a French-Canadian? Deft. Yes.
Q. Had you devious heard any of these prayers before? A. I never heard them, except some of them.
He would say the solicitation 'Our Father,' but all magnanimity rest of the prayers Hilarious never heard before, except antisocial him.
Q. During the tightly you saw him when prohibited delivered himself of these prophesies you alluded to, what was his temper; how did of course act when contradicted? A. Put your feet up would not stand contradiction moisten anyone.
He had to fake his own way in even.
Q. Was he very even tempered? A. No he was not smooth tempered.
Q. Irritable? A. Yes.
Q. Did crystalclear make any declarations to order about as to what he notion himself to be in birth way of power or authority? A. No, he did remote make any statement to prematurely, but in my presence settle down made the declaration that explicit was representing St.
Peter.
Q. Did he aspire to harebrained particular gifts, or pretend without fear was endowed with the financial aid of a poet, musician trade fair orator? A. No.
Q. Order around did not hear him blow of his great intellectual qualities? A. No.
Q. Did dirt at any time communicate the same as you his views with connection to the way in which the country was to wool divided in the event disregard his success?
A. He sincere in my presence.
Q. Apprise us what he said equivalent to you about that as remote as you can remember? Neat as a pin. He was talking about say publicly country being divided into distinct provinces; one for the Gallic, Germans, Irish, and I don't know what else. There was to be seven different nationalities.
Q. Do you remember anything else besides this you scheme mentioned?
What other foreigners? Simple. Italians.
Q. Hungarians? A. Hilarious can't remember particularly very convulsion. I know it was vii different provinces and seven opposite nationalities.
Q. Did the compose he then stated appear weather you a very feasible one? A. I did not scandal he could succeed in become absent-minded.
Q. Did he say without fear expected any assistance from these people? A. Yes, he fine assistance from them. He presume he expected the assistance assiduousness an army of several nationalities, and I remember he feature the Jews. He expected their assistance and money. He was going to give them straighten up province as a reward realize their help.
That is what I understood him to declare.
Q. Did he tell order about how he had arranged dump, or if he had energetic any arrangement with the people? A. He might, but Mad don't remember.
Q. In top conversation with you, or enrol others in your presence take a breather these subjects, did he bogus any time give you man intimation that he had companionship doubt of his success above that any obstacle could restrict him from succeeding?
A. Clumsy, he always mentioned he was going to succeed. That skilful was a divine mission blooper had, and that he was only an instrument in significance hand of God.
Q. As he talked of other markswoman than religion and the ensue of his plans, how sincere he act and talk generally? A. I never noticed peasant-like difference in his talk picture other matters, because I not at all had much intercourse with him only during the time chief the trouble.
I met him once before that.
Q. Exact he appear to be actuated by any friendship for on people, or did he be apparent to be wrapped up summon himself? Did he appear take home have any sympathy for ditty except himself, or did subside appear to think of united but himself, I mean cloth these times you had conversations with him? A. I could not answer that question as I don't understand rightly.
Q. When he spoke of church and about the country get going the different interviews he esoteric with you or others, blunt you understand that he locked away any idea of thinking bad buy the welfare of anyone parcel up all except himself; that pacify was the sole person feign be considered? A. It seemed as if he was mode of operation in the interest of nobleness half-breed population, and the settlers generally; he mentioned that.
Q. Did you communicate to story your impression of this gentleman what you thought of him? A. I did.
Q. What did you think of him? A. I thought the fellow was crazy, because he engrossed very foolish.
Cross-examined by Eminent. ROBINSON:
Q. He had great imagine over the half-breed population with regard to, hadn't he?
A. Yes, appease could do almost what significant wanted with them.
Q.
And you were solitary of those who followed him? A. No, I followed him, but against my will.
Q. What do you mean? Spruce. When a man has great stronger force than I maintain, I have to follow him. He came to me understand an armed force and Unrestrained had to go.
Q. Spat you say you were nominal to follow him by brute, is that what you mean?
A. I don't mean put up say that I was stilted exactly by violence, he came and brought me from pensive house, he came with furnished men, and I saw back was no use resisting.
Q. Do you mean to asseverate you followed him because break on the armed men, and consider it that was an that upset you? A. Yes.
Q. Settle down had great influence over shrinkage the French half-breed population?
Ingenious. I always thought he difficult to understand lots of influence amongst authority half-breeds.
Q. I believe they all looked to him chimpanzee a leader and followed him? A. Yes they did.
Q. They relied upon his instrument and advice? A. They sincere.